O2 PANIC: Unexpected exceptions.
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RE: O2 PANIC: Unexpected exceptions.
Wish I could update further, but the "sequential" exercise just finished this morning and the "butterfly" started, so I guess it will be another week or so...
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03-21-2023, 02:37 AM
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RE: O2 PANIC: Unexpected exceptions.
Those you can just shut down the system during an exercise.

You just cannot shut down the low-level format.

Exercises are different just like DD, go ahead and turn off your system and start again but don’t use auto and don’t use format in FX.

You’ll be fine as long as you’re not inside a low-level format. Which if you’re in exercise, you’re not!!

In FX, the dangerous one is the format command. People mistake it for file system format and get trapped in a SCSI Media low level format. Anything else you can just yank power to the system and try again in terms of the HDD. A low level format is a SCSI procedure that doesn’t allow media interaction until complete. So if you stop or loose power during that, you must begin again and go the entire way through before the drive will ever become ready again.

So stay away from FX format and auto!!!!
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03-21-2023, 02:42 AM
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RE: O2 PANIC: Unexpected exceptions.
Thanks -- good old CTRL-C took me out of the exercise cleanly. Should have done it days ago!

Used fx to set up partitions on the new drive and write the label. Had a scare when my first attempt at install didn't find the disk, but I resetenv in PROM and my second install attempt worked. (I forgot to run diagnostics before the resetenv, but did run it afterwards and SCSI test passed, not sure if that had anything to do with it.)

Followed the network install guide elsewhere in this forum, and happy to report I seem to have IRIX 6.5.22 working. Thanks to all for the help. (I can confirm that in PROM the VGA signal is 75Hz, and after boot it goes down to 60Hz.)

A few questions if anyone feels like sharing. I installed:
6.5.22 Overlay 1 of 3
6.5.22 Overlay 2 of 3
6.5.22 Overlay 3 of 3
6.5.22 Applications [only one image file, see below]
6.5.0 Foundations 1
6.5.0 Foundations 2
6.5.0 Applications
The repository where I found the 6.5.22 iso files (WinWorld) only had a single Applications CD image, but the release notes suggest there should be two. This is why I included 6.5.0 Applications -- there were only two conflicts, a Java and one other, which I chose not to install. Am I missing anything important/fun?

Also, I tried to install
6.5.0 Development Foundation
6.5.0 Development Libraries
ONC3/NFS Version 3
but the installer rejected them as the wrong version. What is the right version? Again, WinWorld only had the above 4 CD images for 6.5.22.

Finally, I seem to have got it playing nicely with my local network (can ping local machines and see the routers), but it looks like WAN traffic through both Netscape and Mozilla isn't working. I'm by no means a network expert, very possible I've missed a setting (DNS?), but wonder if both browsers are so old they are being blocked?
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03-22-2023, 04:15 AM
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You're welcome :-)

Good to hear things went mostly okay. I'm not going to address everything you said, only parts and I'll leave the rest to others.

1. The disc order in very important, but in general remember that overlays are "like" patches. They aren't literally but they resolve that way logically. So you MUST put in the original base media for optional drivers, applications, and optional CDs FIRST. Then you "apply" the overlays. Otherwise the overlay's don't know what to overlay. I tell people to think of the media an entitlements. By putting in the original applications disk you show what applications you were entitled to, then the overlays know what to resolve to version update! So treat the overlays like an old windows service pack, you cannot update what not set to install. Easy to think of it that way.

2. Doing item 1 incorrectly leads to a very insidious problem, you can very easily (and inst won't warn or stop you) install a BASE program and never get the update (because you introduced them in the wrong order) and now you have crashes and application issues you cannot figure out! NFS is a prime example. For NFS you have to know the correct path for INST (you didn't, that's somewhat understandable). It's normally /CDROM/dist/dist6.5. That should have been your inst open path on the NFS CD, NOT /CDROM/dist. Now the issue, if you do the CD out of order (after the overlays) or just by itself Irix will have NO IDEA it's OLD and needed an upgrade, so you install an OLD application...thats has issues that no one else has because you effectively installed the 10+ year old version into the late-version OS.

Rule of thumb, introduce ORIGINAL CD, then introduce ALL overlays discs for your version, then hit done. Updates to drivers and original Irix content are in the overlays!! If you just put in an original disc...old gets installed. If you want the correct versions of things, you introduce ALL original/old software CDs, AND dev libs, and THEN insert overlays for final evaluation. That's the easiest way to get it all right. You cannot skip discs unless you know you never needed the content of that discs (new or old). You were 100% CORRECT to run BOTH applications discs..Old then NEW...that's the way.

3. Java and the other one always conflict, no one cares, removing them is correct, then it all works..you were correct in your install there as well. It's just a dumb thing when you do 100% of the OS instead of pick and choose.

4. I'm not going to go through full networking with you as it's been awhile so I'll let someone else do it. But for irix it's extremely important that...ethernet must be plugged into a LIVE network before PROM BOOT!! Else it complains and sometimes never seems to recover...don't ask me why...just put the cable in and make sure it's live before system startup. there is a needed NIS/DNS setup, even for DHCP, that you have to do, I forget what it is, someone will come along on that I'd think. It's a config file thing...DHCP doesn't work 100% in Irix like it should some info is static for some reason.

5. There is a support process called ESP that takes a TON of resources, SGI is gone...the process was part of their support system. Do a "chkconfig esp off", and get back a bunch of quickness for start and shutdown, at least. https://software.majix.org/irix/admin-chkconfig.shtml


That's where I'm going to bow out, glad your fix was dirt simple for the found O2, I assumed you'd be dealing with dead CPU, so you got very lucky.

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03-22-2023, 04:45 AM
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RE: O2 PANIC: Unexpected exceptions.
(03-22-2023, 04:15 AM)ipmungam Wrote:  (I can confirm that in PROM the VGA signal is 75Hz, and after boot it goes down to 60Hz.)

Someone did that, and it wasn't easy, and you'll want to fix it as soon as possible because the prom is similar to bios on an x86 machine, when the operating system goes to poop you can almost always get into the box from the prom. It is supposed to and stock it most certainly does, drop back to the lowest common denominator. Otherwise it's useless.

As for the rest, that's why 6.3 is preferable :-)  But one thing at least, you didn't have to choose between maintenance and feature stream ...
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