RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
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RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
Does anyone have a cable pinout for the Indigo2Video breakout box?

One port was to the Indy cam, the second port for a cable for video in and out.

Please let me know if anyone can be of assistance.

Thanks !

Indigo2 IMPACT  : R10K-195MHz, 1GB RAM, 146GB 15K, CD-ROM, AudioDAT, MaxImpact w/ TRAM.  IRIX 6.5.22

O2 : R12K-400MHz, 1GB RAM, 300GB 15K, DVD-ROM, CRM Graphics, AV1/2 Media Boards & O2 Cam, DV-Link, FPA & SW1600.  IRIX 6.5.30

 : 2 x R14K-600MHz, 6GB RAM, V12 Graphics, PCI Shoebox.  IRIX 6.5.30

IBM  : 7012-39H, 7043-140

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07-29-2020, 11:53 PM
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RE: RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
Yo,
There are three different video boards for Indigo2 products that sound REALLY similar. I've gotten the "Junior" Breakout pinout from Ian in the past for the Video-4-IMPACT Indigo2 board (that has one indycam port on the PCB and one DB26 port that gives your two S-Video and three RCA Videos (in total), grouped in IN and OUT). Mine is the: Indigo2Video-for-IMPACT board: SGI PN 030-0662-004 or 030-0662-005

You can find the boards here: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgidepot/partsspares.html

You seem to be asking for the Indigo2Video which might have been for graphics series: XL/XZ/Elan/Extreme? See the confusion?

I'm unsure if they took the same pinout. Email Ian and ask him, if so he still has that info. He may provide it to you or he may ask you to purchase one of this homemade breakout cables for 75 UKP. But it would be easier to help if you can post the SGI part number as the naming scheme was terribly confusing.

Also, I've not done this "mod" yet. But I discovered a really cheap third party product that has the correct cabling and ports/connector, but requires resoldering for the pinout (which I've not yet done). They are sold on eBay all the time for no more than $20, They are called the "pinnacle bluebox". The RCA video port connectors are still made (I ordered some from DigiKey). The bluebox is insanely easy to open (all clips), if you don't care about port colors you can leave them, if you do, you can replace ports with yellows and remove non-functional ones for a more authentic look. It's just a single PCB card with tons of wires soldered at the bottom PCB edge to a long DB26 connector (the correct kind we need for Indigo2). So the ONLY issue is taking the time to probe each pin, know the pinout, and reconnect the correct s-video and rca ports on the bluebox PCB to the correct wiring for the Indigo2Video board. So rewiring of the bluebox internally has to happen, but it totally doable once you've gotten the pinout.

I have several of these boxes and it's a winter plan once I have SGI work time. But I don't mind telling what to buy, if you can get the pinout from Ian then you're good. This box gives you ALL the raw materials (in place) that you need to make a great breakout box, you just need to alter the pinout inside the bluebox to the correct pinout for your video IO card.
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07-30-2020, 12:51 AM
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RE: RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
(07-30-2020, 12:51 AM)weblacky Wrote:  Yo,
There are three different video boards for Indigo2 products that sound REALLY similar.  I've gotten the "Junior" Breakout pinout from Ian in the past for the Video-4-IMPACT Indigo2 board (that has one indycam port on the PCB and one DB26 port that gives your two S-Video and three RCA Videos (in total), grouped in IN and OUT).  Mine is the: Indigo2Video-for-IMPACT board: SGI PN 030-0662-004 or 030-0662-005

You can find the boards here: http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgidepot/partsspares.html

You seem to be asking for the Indigo2Video which might have been for graphics series: XL/XZ/Elan/Extreme? See the confusion?

I'm unsure if they took the same pinout.  Email Ian and ask him, if so he still has that info.  He may provide it to you or he may ask you to purchase one of this homemade breakout cables for 75 UKP.  But it would be easier to help if you can post the SGI part number as the naming scheme was terribly confusing.

Also, I've not done this "mod" yet.  But I discovered a really cheap third party product that has the correct cabling and ports/connector, but requires resoldering for the pinout (which I've not yet done).  They are sold on eBay all the time for no more than $20, They are called the "pinnacle bluebox".  The RCA video port connectors are still made (I ordered some from DigiKey).  The bluebox is insanely easy to open (all clips), if you don't care about port colors you can leave them, if you do, you can replace ports with yellows and remove non-functional ones for a more authentic look.  It's just a single PCB card with tons of wires soldered at the bottom PCB edge to a long DB26 connector (the correct kind we need for Indigo2).  So the ONLY issue is taking the time to probe each pin, know the pinout, and reconnect the correct s-video and rca ports on the bluebox PCB to the correct wiring for the Indigo2Video board.  So rewiring of the bluebox internally has to happen, but it totally doable once you've gotten the pinout.

I have several of these boxes and it's a winter plan once I have SGI work time.  But I don't mind telling what to buy, if you can get the pinout from Ian then you're good.  This box gives you ALL the raw materials (in place) that you need to make a great breakout box, you just need to alter the pinout inside the bluebox to the correct pinout for your video IO card.

Yeah, the part number would probably be super helpful, huh?  LOL

I have 030-0662-005 with the Indy Cam port and the DB26.

You're right about the confusion.  =)

Indigo2 IMPACT  : R10K-195MHz, 1GB RAM, 146GB 15K, CD-ROM, AudioDAT, MaxImpact w/ TRAM.  IRIX 6.5.22

O2 : R12K-400MHz, 1GB RAM, 300GB 15K, DVD-ROM, CRM Graphics, AV1/2 Media Boards & O2 Cam, DV-Link, FPA & SW1600.  IRIX 6.5.30

 : 2 x R14K-600MHz, 6GB RAM, V12 Graphics, PCI Shoebox.  IRIX 6.5.30

IBM  : 7012-39H, 7043-140

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07-30-2020, 12:57 AM
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RE: RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
OK, So my bluebox suggestion has some issues (I just checked), seems it only has 20 internal lines. There are unconnected DB26 pins (6 of them). Cable shielding is not really there. The 6 unconnected lines do affect our pinout (looks like Input RCA 1 and Output RCA would be affected, maybe more). In the worst case, you'd need to provide a new cable and new DB26 connector, the internal box and PCB still look very good for this project. it doesn't look evident that the unused wires are just cut flush inside, so they may have actually ordered a fully-pinned connector with missing lines.

If shielding isn't an issue, and none of the black wires are really "shared" somewhere inside the cable, then we have enough lines to do this. I think you only need 15 wires.

So more investigation is needed has to how much you should need to change. But either cut off the DB26 head and attach a new one using the current lines or get a new (better) shielded cable and attach a new DB26 head to that.

Pics are in: https://siliconimage.irixnet.org/index.p...le-BlueBox

PLEASE NOTE: on my cable connector picture I placed a female-gendered mating connector on the end to make it easier to probe, the connector does have a correct gendered connector for the Indigo2video.

This is why this was still a project...does anyone know where to get good shielded cable with shielded pairs for this kind of video work? Even a 15 line VGA cable would work for this. I'd like more shielding in the lines, never found a good source for this stuff by the foot.
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07-30-2020, 02:54 AM
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RE: RE: Indigo2Video Cable Pinout
I've updated this topic here: https://forums.irixnet.org/thread-2689-p...l#pid18695
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