[Raion]

The issue with China itself is that I don't trust the propaganda. What Hamei didn't mention is he's not anywhere near Hubei. He lives in Shanghai, or did when I visited him. Hubei is near Chengdu and Anhui, which is central China.

Already they have imprisoned doctors for whistle blowing. More than 3,000 lives have been claimed, mostly in Hubei. People are being dragged from their homes I'd they are infected, even if they live alone.

https://youtu.be/SLirQXbJrNA

This couple is pleading to be left alone.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/202...ed-chines/

There are multiple facilities in Wuhan, one which studies SARS in 2017. I wish I believed the "real" story it come from their wet markets, but considering the shit that is shown at wet markets all across the country you'd expect people to be walking around with diseases from monkeys, chickens, and sparrows.

I'm no conspiracy theorist. This is just too coincidental to be unrelated.

And unlike China the west isn't an anti-foreigner, xenophobic propaganda machine committing a genocide against Tibetans and Uyghurs. While I don't trust the US government verbatim, it's easier to take their word for things since it's not at gunpoint by some corrupt CCP official.

[shrek]

Yeah I'm not going to argue with someone who just keeps saying "but I live here" as if that's more valid than video evidence. I live in the Detroit area and there's lots of violence. Just because I don't personally witness every stabbing or mugging that doesn't mean it's not happening. There are people who do witness these things who talk about them who aren't paid off or politically motivated. But even better than that we have people filming everything and posting that footage online.

The text of this specific twitter post isn't verifiable but just watch the video. Note that Snopes has come out and claimed that this video is "miscaptioned", which is probably true. But there is still no explanation as to why police officers are walking around with rifles in the streets. This reminds me of footage I saw from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.

https://twitter.com/Rangoli_A/status/122...5676780545

People can disagree with me if they'd like. All I can do is wish them well and encourage them to buy basic supplies. I'm not some Alex Jones lunatic who stores buckets of vacuum packed hamburgers in a bunker in the woods. But I do keep bottled water, dry foods, basic medical supplies, and other stuff around my home and in my car. I do it for the same reasons I keep backups of important files or have an emergency fund.

[hamei]

As promised, I am not going to say any more on this subject. However, I am pretty sure the matter will be of interest to people, since it is definitely coming to a theater near you any day now.

This is a report done by a 25-person team from the World Health Organization discussing the coronavirus situation thru about mid-February. How it was handled, what was learned, what they think future methods should try to achieve, best practices for containment and treatment, pretty comprehensive for an early report and done in a scientific, thorough, believable manner. Of all the sources I have read (was of interest here, stuck in the house for several weeks), this has been the best.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/...report.pdf

[Raion]

Well I was sick from approx Mon-Fri morning. I don't know if it was COVID-19, but I feel fine since last night other than being incredibly worn out

[Irinikus]

SARS-CoV-2 has just been declared a national disaster in South Africa, as our case number has ramped up extremely quickly to 61 confirmed cases, with local spread confirmed. Travel bans have been placed on foreign nationals from "high risk" countries such as: Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain, Germany, US, Hong Kong, UK and China. Gatherings of more than 100 people are now prohibited.

It's going to escalate rather quickly over here in my opinion and we will soon have a very big problem on our hands! (HIV has been allowed to spread here, due to people being kept alive via antiretrovirals. This segment of our population will be in grave danger and could be as many as 7.5 million people!)

So we'll soon be a high risk country ourselves!

[jan-jaap]

SARS-CoV-2 has just been declared a national disaster in South Africa, as our case number has ramped up extremely quickly to 61 confirmed cases, with local spread confirmed. Travel bans have been placed on foreign nationals from "high risk" countries such as: Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain, Germany, US, Hong Kong, UK and China. Gatherings of more than 100 people are now prohibited.

Yeah, that's how it started here. Museums, sports events etc closed down and canceled. Next step up is to be basically shut down public life: schools, restaurants, recommendation to work from home. The Dutch closed down all Coffee shops  

That's when people decide to raid the stores and stock up on supplies. I think over here people have realized by now the shelves are full again the next morning.

It's going to escalate rather quickly over here in my opinion and we will soon have a very big problem on our hands! (HIV has been allowed to spread here, due to people being kept alive via antiretrovirals. This segment of our population will be in grave danger and could be as many as 7.5 million people!)

So we'll soon be a high risk country ourselves!

The problem with this virus is the risk that the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed by the number of people getting sick at the same time. It's all about slowing the spread of the virus. You've probably seen the 'flattening the curve' diagram.

For that matter, I'm afraid this is going to particularly bad in the US, where large numbers of people do not have health insurance. They will have no choice but to keep going to work when sick, accelerating the spread of the disease. Good luck to y'all.

[lunatic]

Small update. It appears none of the five staff, myself included, are currently sick with COVID-19. I may have been sick, but I declined to get tested and just self-quarantined until I had zero symptoms. I'm only in my 20s, so I wasn't high risk and neither were my roommates. 

Everyone else seems to be fine. If you had any concerns about any of us, don't sweat it. i'm not worried that much.

You should be worried. Not for your own health at this point, obviously.
The main problem about this crisis is our inability to fully understand exponential functions. Over here, schools and universities are closed down, not because COVID19 would be extremely dangerous for people in their 20s, but because - if infection rates continue the way they have been - we will loose quite a bunch of high risk patients, i.e. old people, already sick people... Either of the guys, who might be your next president, really shouldn't leave their houses, because they are in a high risk group.
What you did was certainly alright. You don't treat a test result, you always treat a patient. A low percentage of patients get so severely ill that they need intensive care. At some point the capacity of the health care system to provide this care will be exhausted. The main problem is that patients are infectious about 1 day before they have symptoms. Thus, you are not just treating patients, but need to optimize the system as a whole. Some of the model calculations being discussed in the scientific community are really quite scary. Admittedly, one could debate about the model parameters, but in the end exponential growth is a bitch...
It's probably not a fair estimate to base predictions on recent Chinese data, because the Chinese have been serious about containment in a way that would be impossible in Europe or America. But you can look at Italy or Spain. They are a few days/weeks ahead. Latest data (Mar-19) show that cases have doubled in the US within two days. You are now 2. place in daily confirmed new cases worldwide. You people are in for a ride and I really hope you get through this.
Honestly, the data are just beautiful. When I look at this I really wish my own data for my own research would be as impressive as this.

Have a look at this:
https://informationisbeautiful.net/visua...c-datapack

[Raion]

I don't foresee riots. Panic buying is panic buying. It's annoying, but predictable. I don't hold a lot of worry simply because the people I care about are not in the risk groups, other than my grandparents, and they already are taking as many precautions as they can. that's all you can really do.

[vishnu]

Thing that sucks most about the flu, or any fatal respiratory illness, is that dying of respiratory failure is _the_ most excruciating way to die. My dad died of pneumonia, I'll spare you the details but he was in the hospital for a week and nothing they tried to do for him worked, and they tried a lot. It was goddam horrible.

[Raion]

Thing that sucks most about the flu, or any fatal respiratory illness, is that dying of respiratory failure is _the_ most excruciating way to die. My dad died of pneumonia, I'll spare you the details but he was in the hospital for a week and nothing they tried to do for him worked, and they tried a lot. It was goddam horrible.

I've had Pneumonia before, though not nearly and severe, and the best way I can describe how it feels is like your lung capacity is cut in half. Breaths don't reach as deep, and you can feel the fluid.