[commodorejohn]

For example, we admire folks like Elon Musk or Steve Jobs

I don't.

[Raion]

I respect Musk, dislike Jobs, Gates, and many others.

What this means in a larger context I'll leave up to others to interpret, but it basically means I can respect his success, his intentions etc while disagreeing with many of his methods, views and personality traits.

It's hard at times to execute this, especially because nobody is fallible, so it's easy for things to fall out of favor. I don't fall into a binary worldview of everything being good or evil, nor is it a spectrum. Rather, I think of things like a card game. You gain and lose cards with specific meanings and consequences, and those cards either take effect or are discarded via various means.

[soviet]

Musk is just another rich scammer.

[Raion]

Eh, he's less evil than many.

[vishnu]

I think electric cars are a scam, or at least they will be until they can be recharged using 100 percent fission, fusion, wind, solar or water, but SpaceX is anything but a scam, they're creating real, useful products.

[Raion]

SpaceX is Chad.

[vishnu]

SpaceX is Chad.

I thought Chad was just the Starlink guy, and I do think Starlink is more or less a scam.

[sudolinux]

I never liked Rap anyways, i always find it bad and overrated. Generally i like rock, techno music and maybe jazz.