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Coreldraw is available: here’s one of my threads on the subject: https://forums.irixnet.org/thread-1183.h...=Coreldraw
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08-16-2020, 12:10 PM
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(08-16-2020, 12:03 PM)indigofan Wrote:  Can you elaborate on getting Illustrator to work? It just hangs.


Jeeze ... I need a memory recharge. When they did that mess at 24, there was a substitute Display Postscript driver they stuck in to make Photoshop and Illustrator and Framemaker work.

What I did was get rid of that stuff and put Display Postscript back. But people who are less extreme got the phony dps running. Vishnu probably remembers ? I have a hazy recollection of him messing with that. There were threads about it at neko, perhaps archived ?

Does your Photoshop work ? And Framemaker ?

I'm not sure how happy you'll be with it though, that Illustrator can drive you batty .... Photoshop was fine but that version of Illustrate, eek. I still have bald patches.

Coreldraw does work okay. You might go there first ? Agree with you, it'd be nice to have a good vector drawing program available.
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08-16-2020, 03:04 PM
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(08-16-2020, 03:04 PM)hamei Wrote:  
(08-16-2020, 12:03 PM)indigofan Wrote:  Can you elaborate on getting Illustrator to work? It just hangs.


Jeeze ... I need a memory recharge. When they did that mess at 24, there was a substitute Display Postscript driver they stuck in to make Photoshop and Illustrator and Framemaker work.

What I did was get rid of that stuff and put Display Postscript back. But people who are less extreme got the phony dps running. Vishnu probably remembers ? I have a hazy recollection of him messing with that. There were threads about it at neko, perhaps archived ?

Does your Photoshop work ? And Framemaker ?

I'm not sure how happy you'll be with it though, that Illustrator can drive you batty .... Photoshop was fine but that version of Illustrate, eek. I still have bald patches.

Coreldraw does work okay. You might go there first ? Agree with you, it'd be nice to have a good vector drawing program available.
Photoshop and FrameMaker work fine.
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08-16-2020, 04:17 PM
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Another progress report on flow:  the necessary Qt 2 libraries are now built.  The Qt example programs are also built and seem to be running fine.  Yay!

Flow also depends on BMRT, so getting that installed is my next step.  Fortunately binaries are available on nonfree.irix.cc so it's just a matter of installing it before I get to work on compiling flow itself.  Stay tuned....

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08-17-2020, 12:14 AM
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(08-16-2020, 04:17 PM)indigofan Wrote:  Photoshop and FrameMaker work fine.

Okay, then most likely your dpsnx thingy is installed correctly ... which says your Illustrator is not Smile

Illustrator does work fine in 6.5.30 so that's not the reason for your problem. On a Fuel, too. (I just moved the same boot disk over to the O350 when the power supply kacked. Then back again when something went goofy on the O350 and it started eating filesystems. It's nice to have such reliable hardware !)
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08-17-2020, 02:45 AM
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So yeah I confirmed Inkscape 1.x is out. It would require GTK3, and that's simply not a very good toolkit base for anything on IRIX. It has all of the problems in terms of performance that gtk 2 has plus no IRIX compatibility.

.92 appears workable, possibly but I wouldn't get your hopes up for very acceptable performance. I recently fired up GTK2 GIMP on a dual 600 Octane and besides performance being less than stellar, there were significant graphical glitches even after switching to the 24-bit X server. Not exactly something you want to see when you're benchmarking if graphical applications are workable.

Freshports is usually what I use to establish a baseline, since it usually has pretty safe defaults.

I have no interest in GTK applications myself. resolving the actual performance issues is beyond my own capabilities and Axatax agrees in passing conversation that gtk1 was pushing it.

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08-18-2020, 01:36 AM
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For those of you awaiting further info on flow:  it's built.  There are a couple of things about it that I'll need to change and re-build.  Maybe Qt, too.  But it's all building now, and it appears to run based on a couple of quick tests.  Tomorrow I'll re-build and fix the "quirks" from the prior build.

I'll post patches and build instructions in the next day or two for anyone else who wants to compile it for themselves.  Packaging up the binaries will take a bit more work, but I'll put something together for those of you who just want to run the program.

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08-23-2020, 01:50 AM
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(08-23-2020, 01:50 AM)jpstewart Wrote:  For those of you awaiting further info on flow:  it's built.  There are a couple of things about it that I'll need to change and re-build.  Maybe Qt, too.  But it's all building now, and it appears to run based on a couple of quick tests.  Tomorrow I'll re-build and fix the "quirks" from the prior build.

I'll post patches and build instructions in the next day or two for anyone else who wants to compile it for themselves.  Packaging up the binaries will take a bit more work, but I'll put something together for those of you who just want to run the program.
Awesome, looks like you have made serious progress..
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08-24-2020, 09:49 PM
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For anyone who wants to build Qt for themselves here are the instructions.  This will install Qt into /opt/flow.

  1. Before you begin, you will need to install libjpeg, libpng, and zlib from Nekoware.  Of course you'll need the MIPSPro compilers and GNU make installed, too.
  2. Download Qt 2.2.4 from https://download.qt.io/archive/qt/2/qt-x11-2.2.4.tar.gz and extract the tar.gz file to a location of your choosing.  (It will create a qt-2.2.4 subdirectory when you do.) 
  3. Save the attached irix-nekoware-shared.txt file as qt-2.2.4/configs/irix-nekoware-shared (without the .txt suffix -- that's just there so that the forum software will let me attach it).  This will allow you to configure Qt to use existing Nekoware libraries.
  4. Set the environment variables QTDIR, PATH, and LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH as described in the INSTALL file.  Note the N32 part of the LD_ variable.  That's needed for IRIX but not mentioned in the docs.  You don't need to set them in your .profile yet.  Just set them in the shell where you're running the commands to build Qt.
  5. In the qt-2.2.4 directory, run the configure script with the following arguments (it should all be on one line, if the forum wraps it):
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    ./configure -platform irix-nekoware -shared -release -gif -sm -thread -system-zlib -system-libpng -system-jpeg
  6. After the configuration script runs, you can just type 'gmake' to build it.  Be sure to use GNU make.  It takes about 25 minutes to run on my 2x250MHz Octane.
  7. Create all of the following directories:  /opt/flow/bin, /opt/flow/lib32, and /opt/flow/include.
  8. Copy libqt-mt.so.2.2.4, libqt.so.2.2.4, and libqutil.so.1.0.0 from qt-2.2.4/lib to /opt/flow/lib32.  Make symlinks for libqt-mt.so.2.2, libqt-mt.so.2, and libqt-mt.so pointing to libqt-mt.so.2.2.4.  Repeat for the other two libraries.  (Have a look at the links in the qt-2.2.4/lib directory to see what I mean.  Unfortunately, those links use an absolute path to wherever you unpacked the source.)
  9. Copy everything from qt-2.2.4/bin to /opt/flow/bin.
  10. Copy everything from qt-2.2.4/include to /opt/flow/include.
  11. Change the environment variables from step 4 so that QTDIR=/opt/flow, and PATH should now point to /opt/flow/bin instead of wherever you unpacked the source.  There should be no need for LD_LIBRARYN32_PATH anymore, so you can unset that one.  Now is the time to add them to your .profile if you want to.

Subsequent posts will describe how to install BMRT into /opt/flow and then finally how to build flow itself and install it to the same place.  Unfortunately, none of the packages have installer scripts.  It's all manual copying.

If the above compilation instructions sound like gibberish, don't worry. A binary package will come soon, too, for people who just want to be able to run the suite.


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08-24-2020, 11:22 PM
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Nice, I'll incorporate this into Nekoware II. Thank you very much jp!

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