Just joined, new old SGI user - Octane video question & Hello!
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Just joined, new old SGI user - Octane video question & Hello!
Heyo! I'd been craving a new SGI system lately, as a while back I had to sell off my retro collection and recently purchased a fairly basic Octane. Some time ago I had an Indigo2. While waiting for it, I've purchased a new drive and null modem cable that I figure on using (along with booterizer or similar) for set up.

Background out of the way, all of my current monitors are 16:9, HDMI & DisplayPort only. Of course the octane was never made with these in mind. Given that it's fairly easy to convert the SoG output with a nice DIP switch VGA converter, will a simple VGA<>HDMI scaler work? I'm really hoping there are some particularly accepted/well regarded options, maybe even something that won't force scaling?

Secondarily, do basic Impact graphics handle pushing 1280x720 as an option?

Thanks and hello from a new user! Looking forward to this as a long term project machine. [cross-posted from sgi.sh apologies if that's a total gaffe but I don't know which of these forums is more active and friendly, etc]

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04-18-2020, 08:04 PM
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Welcome Jenna.

So I have actually confirmed some VGA adapters can handle HDMI upscaling/sync on green to use on a modern monitor. You can also compile VFOs to add custom resolutions, but the recommended thing to do is to pick up an older Dell 4:3 or 5:4 monitor with VGA. They tend to be good, as does AOC, Asus etc.

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04-18-2020, 08:38 PM
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Ah, ok! I'll make sure not to poke the bear. Glad to hear at least some convertors do handle the SGI's somewhat unique signal set up. I think I'll give one converter with the custom video formats a try before getting a one of those old Dell LCDs with every port they could find, since I'll need the VGA adapter either way. Thank you!

Amusingly, while posting this I got reply there with a link to your old post! Saved me some effort and good to see some folks get along.

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04-18-2020, 09:11 PM
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Sure, and if you run into any trouble, be sure to let me know. I'll do what I can to help.

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04-18-2020, 09:47 PM
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To add, widescreen resolutions are possible, but can be a bit challenging. You need to create a new vfs for the resolution then compile it into a vfo for your graphics architecture. I played around a fair bit in the past with these on my O2 and Indigo2. Some resolutions worked OK, some did not. I did find the Indigo2 less accepting of odd resolutions than the O2, and to be honest in the end I scrounged a 20" 4:3 screen from work and now run my SGI machines through that as it was frankly a lot less hassle.

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04-19-2020, 12:39 PM
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Don't have any supporting kit yet, but did get the Octane itself. It is in better shape than I thought! No apparent cracks, case came apart nicely for cleaning, and the front door flap even has the fancy plastic arm still in one piece. Anyone know a good replacement for the door spring? Mine works, but it is a bit rusty.

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04-23-2020, 12:09 AM
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nobody has developed replacements for that yet but I'm hoping that eventually we can either get 3D printed doors and arms, or someone will come up with an alternative.

I was thinking the other day how cool a polished aluminium door would look.

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04-23-2020, 02:32 AM
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A note on those convertors: if you can, find out what the ADC chip they use is (the information is not always available). If the data sheet/reference for that chip says anywhere that it supports composite sync, then it should work with SoG.
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04-23-2020, 08:53 PM
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Good news! The system works great, got it installed via headless/serial with booterizer. Octane R12K @ 300Mhz, 256MB of RAM, nice big SCSI drive, basic graphics and the 1.4Xbow frontplane with the newer PSU. Now I have to wait for the video & ps/2 conversion stuff to show up.

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04-24-2020, 02:28 AM
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If you buy an HP-branded PS/2 mousie, it'll work, with scrollie wheel and everything.

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