[hamei]

The only reason Cisco makes their crap routers and sell their crap routers is because they want your money. I'm willing to admit that their hardware is quality but Cisco does not give a shit about any security concerns that may "affect their bottom line." Hey, they've got a sports stadium they need to take care of.

Wull, for sure my cisco experience is with old stuff, but it all had fast ethernet interfaces which was fine for us so it was plenty good enough. As far as I know it did not have any of these vulnerabilities of which y'all speak. I'm sure it had some but they weren't built-in passwords cuz there weren't any. Now that they are consumer-grade crap and it's 2023 when it's all about the cash, things are probably different.

But you can still buy a 3660 and fill it with goodies and put different fans in it, and not have to worry.

About your other complaints, for sure. The entire world is like that. The worst offenders are the shitsticks at google but I don't hear anyone (else) screaming "stay away from ALL google products ! all they are is cameras in your underwear drawer !" Nope, people fill their pages with googlefonts, googleapis, googlethis and googlethat, google cameras under the toilet seat, all the worst real failure in one's security you can imagine. And then they run windows on top of it, which is filled with back doors that mickey can use ... then they hope no one else can find them. Yeah right, only mickey is smart, unh-hunh. Mickey has always been the dumbest of the bunch.

The whole thing is just shit on a shingle, everywhere. Fuck it. I read a couple of sites and stay away from everything else. Programs written in 1995 actually do the job, the rest of this crap can go on a throwaway device in case I need to use weixin for something. Screw computing, it's shit.