[GeekLucanis]

I've been having issues trying to install tardists that require more than one or two dependencies on the software manager on my Octane. I managed to install vnc and openssh, but anything bigger such as dillo and thunderbird, I cant get all the dependencies to load and install. I have tried to untar the tardists through the terminal and inst them, but that fails as well. The software manager is 4.14 on maintenance stream and IRIX is 6.5.28. I have no idea how to change the software manager if its on the wrong one.

[gijoe77]

so what exactly happens? does swmgr die and leaves a core file? does it just hang forever?

[indy99]

......anything bigger such as dillo and thunderbird, I cant get all the dependencies to load and install. I have tried to untar the tardists through the terminal and inst them, but that fails as well......I have no idea how to change the software manager if its on the wrong one

FWIW I don't think the Software Manager revision is your problem. When I've run into issues with open source software that has multiple dependencies often the problem turned out to sub-dependency incompatibilities between the major packages.

Inst and Software Manager are both pretty good about spelling out what conflicts the install process ran into. It's a lot to ask, but If you'd like to post the names/revisions of those packages and the conflict or error messages perhaps someone might be able provide some advice with a better focus on your specific issue(s).

[GeekLucanis]

It would usually just hang forever. Ill see if I cant get a short video up detailing whats happening

[gijoe77]

I had some problems with swmgr a few times on a bunch of different systems - unfortunately I think I only posted the solutions on nekochan and didn't keep any records for my self (not gonna make that mistake again), but from what I recall once I had to rqs the library files that swmgr uses. here is the procedure I used for rqs'ing the nekoware libs that firefox uses - modify this and run it on swmgr, or just you can run the command manually on the libs one at a time:

Code:

ldd firefox-bin | grep neko | cut -d'>' -f2- > /tmp/fflibs.txt
for f in `cat /tmp/fflibs.txt`; do
rqs -m -f -l 0xa000000 $f
done

the other time I had to mess with some files in /var/inst - I would caution you tho to perhaps clone your drive or backup that dir before you start messing with stuff in there.  If you do the rqs procedure report back if that helped or not, if not I'll start doing some digging and try to figure out what file from /var/inst was messing up swmgr

[jpstewart]

How many dependencies are you trying to install at once?  I seem to recall there's a limit of 26 tardists at a time.  (It had something to do with unpacking to temporary directories with a single letter as their name, or something like that.) You'll have to break them into smaller batches at a time, whether you use inst or swmgr.

I found out about that limit from Nekochan a long time ago.  The info is probably in one of the archives that's been put on-line if you need more info.

[gijoe77]

How many dependencies are you trying to install at once?  I seem to recall there's a limit of 26 tardists at a time.  (It had something to do with unpacking to temporary directories with a single letter as their name, or something like that.)  You'll have to break them into smaller batches at a time, whether you use inst or swmgr.

I found out about that limit from Nekochan a long time ago.  The info is probably in one of the archives that's been put on-line if you need more info.

I seem to recall this was an issue for some people and not for others.  I never had a problem installing the entire nekochan software collection in one shot - other people had to break it up into 3 chunks

[jpstewart]

I seem to recall this was an issue for some people and not for others.  I never had a problem installing the entire nekochan software collection in one shot - other people had to break it up into 3 chunks

Interesting.  Thanks for the info.

Did you perhaps unpack the *.tardist files into their *.idb, *.sw, etc. components?  I believe that was how the IRIX distribution media worked around the problem.  (I remembered that after posting my previous message.)  The problem had to do with unpacking tardist files, so if they were already unpacked then there was no problem.

In any case, thanks for posting that even though it suggests that I might be barking up the wrong tree here....

[gijoe77]

I seem to recall this was an issue for some people and not for others.  I never had a problem installing the entire nekochan software collection in one shot - other people had to break it up into 3 chunks

Interesting.  Thanks for the info.

Did you perhaps unpack the *.tardist files into their *.idb, *.sw, etc. components?  I believe that was how the IRIX distribution media worked around the problem.  (I remembered that after posting my previous message.)  The problem had to do with unpacking tardist files, so if they were already unpacked then there was no problem.

In any case, thanks for posting that even though it suggests that I might be barking up the wrong tree here....

yes,  you are correct, it was not individual tardists, I ran a script to untar all the tardists and then delete the tardist file afterwards, so it was just the one big dir with all the  .idb, .sw, etc components. I do believe even in that scenario some people were having a problem with swmgr being able to do everything, but I'm sort of foggy on the exact details. I wasn't able to find the nekochan thread..