IRIX emulation is here!
RE: IRIX emulation is here!
Well, I got basic networking running (on MS-Windows) for the Irix 6.2 image posted here. 'ping' works, but I don't know how to set the default route permanently across boots. (Doing "route add -net default 192.168.2.254 -hopcount 1" on the prompt works as expected). Also, DNS does not work, so I need to figure out how to set that up on Irix 6.2. Any and all help on those two issues is greatly appreciated.


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Well, looks like a standard "/etc/resolv.conf' with 'nameserver 192.168.2.254' resolves the DNS issue. Now on to the default route issue.


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RE: IRIX emulation is here!
So is this just the OS emulation at the moment? Or could it run software as well?

Sorry, I am always imagining just using Camtasia for tutorials. Wink

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05-09-2020, 05:44 PM
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(05-09-2020, 05:44 PM)Intuition Wrote:  So is this just the OS emulation at the moment? Or could it run software as well?

Well, I guess that depends on what you would call an 'application'. I ran a browser (Netscape) on it (although I have to admit that a decades old browser was having severe issues with the modern day web). I would call that an 'application', despite the fact that these days about every OS vendor appears to ship with a browser as part of the default installation of the OS.

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By the way, it is the physical machine that is being emulated, not the OS. The software - including the OS - is exactly the same as what would run on a real machine.
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Was mainly asking because if I could run an emulated machine and able to run Power Animator or other 3D software I could make a few tutorials without my SGI machines.

The bonus being that I could screen capture it better on emulation. But, since I have read that it runs slower than normal maybe the performance would be dismal and wouldn't be great for running 3d apps.

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05-11-2020, 10:22 AM
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(05-11-2020, 10:22 AM)Intuition Wrote:  Was mainly asking because if I could run an emulated machine and able to run Power Animator or other 3D software I could make a few tutorials without my SGI machines.

The bonus being that I could screen capture it better on emulation. But, since I have read that it runs slower than normal maybe the performance would be dismal and wouldn't be great for running 3d apps.

I guess it might 'work', depending on how advanced the graphics emulation is. But yes, it is very slow: even just typing on the prompt on a (X11) terminal already is so slow for me that keystrokes are regularly 'missed / not registered'. Meaning I can type faster than the emulation can keep up with, and that's not because I am such an amazingly fast typist. Don't get me wrong here: I am really glad and excited that the emulation has advanced this far due to the hard work of the MAME developers, but it's just not fast enough at this point for anything serious.
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(05-09-2020, 05:44 PM)Intuition Wrote:  So is this just the OS emulation at the moment? Or could it run software as well?
It'll run programs just fine but only at a snail's pace. For example the general platform demos like the "Ideas in Motion" animation will run but looks very choppy and likes to freeze. I haven't managed to get above 20% performance of a real Indy on any of my machines. This is emulating a very low end Indy too, since it's an R4600 100MHz, 128MB, XL24 graphics. 

Try it out though. Getting files on there is easy enough even without networking. Just put them into an ISO and then mount that in the emulated machine. Check out this link for easily making ISOs on Linux: https://wiki.debian.org/genisoimage

(05-11-2020, 02:10 PM)dukzcry Wrote:  I had a luck with hp9k370 machine using this script
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/mas...taputil.sh
However it doesn't work for me with indy_4610 machine
I saw that too and didn't have any luck either.

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(05-09-2020, 01:53 PM)MHoes Wrote:  Now on to the default route issue.

I used this instruction https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys...BzDNYauAgJ
6.2 method didn't work for me (perhaps OS needs some patches).
But 4 to 5.3 method worked. Its just init script and few symlinks.
/etc/init.d/network.local
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/init.d/network.local
#
# Define a default route to a smart gateway
#
# The following links are required:
#
#       ln -s /etc/init.d/network.local /etc/rc0.d/K39network
#       ln -s /etc/init.d/network.local /etc/rc2.d/S31network

case "$1" in
   'start')
         /usr/etc/route add default 192.168.1.1 1
         ;;

   'stop')
         /usr/etc/route delete default 192.168.1.1 1
         ;;

   *)
         echo "usage: $0 {start|stop}"
         ;;
esac
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(05-12-2020, 08:39 AM)shrek Wrote:  I saw that too and didn't have any luck either.
Ah, forgot. Do you have cap_net_admin and cap_net_raw capabilities set on mame64 binary? If not please follow https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/Driver:Apollo guide, section Networking.
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Thanks. I might take a look at networking a bit later. 

As a side note I got new hardware recently and performance is a lot better. Graphics stuff in the emulated Indy is much less choppy.


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RE: IRIX emulation is here!
(05-13-2020, 11:14 AM)dukzcry Wrote:  
(05-09-2020, 01:53 PM)MHoes Wrote:  Now on to the default route issue.

I used this instruction https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys...BzDNYauAgJ
6.2 method didn't work for me (perhaps OS needs some patches).
But 4 to 5.3 method worked. Its just init script and few symlinks.
/etc/init.d/network.local
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/init.d/network.local
#
# Define a default route to a smart gateway
#
# The following links are required:
#
#       ln -s /etc/init.d/network.local /etc/rc0.d/K39network
#       ln -s /etc/init.d/network.local /etc/rc2.d/S31network

case "$1" in
   'start')
         /usr/etc/route add default 192.168.1.1 1
         ;;

   'stop')
         /usr/etc/route delete default 192.168.1.1 1
         ;;

   *)
         echo "usage: $0 {start|stop}"
         ;;
esac

Well, this works in the sense that I no longer have to manually have to set the default route, but ...
Now IRIX is complaining on boot and shutdown :

" old usage of trailing metric, assuming route via gateway "

Hrm ?    

(05-21-2020, 03:33 PM)shrek Wrote:  As a side note I got new hardware recently and performance is a lot better. Graphics stuff in the emulated Indy is much less choppy.

Hi. Would you mind sharing what the specs are of your recently acquired hardware ? I'm in the process of selecting my new desktop, but am a little unsure of what to get next.

My current setup is about six years old now, and looks like this :

CPU: Intel i7-4771 @ 3.50Ghz (Haswell)
Ram: 32GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (Kepler)
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