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Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - Irinikus - 10-19-2018
Today I tried to use my SUN microsystems USB keyboard and mouse with my Tezro. (As I'm trying to declutter the place a bit.)
The machine booted to the login screen, but I didn't get any response from the keyboard and mouse.
Are there any tricks to this?
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - BrainStorm - 10-21-2018
If I'm not mistaken, there is no USB support in IRIX. I don't really understand why it can't be ported in, but that was what I was told at nekochan long ago. And somebody please explain it if I have this all wrong.
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - indy99 - 10-21-2018
Does the USB adapter show up with a PC I Adapter ID in an hinv? If so and you IRIX revision is new enough you probably just have some stale entries in your hardware graph (that still point at your PS/2 kb&m).
The entries for I/O devices are enumerated by and can be managed or reordered by editing /etc/ioconfig.conf.
If you wish to do that as the IRIX gods intended, see "man ioconfig" (and for good measure "man usbinput").
If you'd rather cut to the chase, rename /etc/ioconfig.conf (or, if your feeling lucky, delete it entirely). Shut down, reattach the Sun USB stuff, and reboot. IRIX will regenerate ioconfig.
If the Sun gear passes muster / is fully compliant with the USB HID standard, hopefully you'll be in like Flynn. If you weren't so fortunate, restore your original ioconfig and reboot.
My Tezro is running 6.5.30, the USB kb&m appear in an hinv -vm as
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse
indy99
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - BrainStorm - 10-21-2018
OK, looks like I'm completely wrong. So is there a way to get USB working in an Octane/Octane2?
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - indy99 - 10-21-2018
Irix only supports a limited subset of USB protocols, and only does so in the last generation of Irix hardware. Pretty much the IP35 generation, and then limited to HID input devices like keyboards, mice, (as well as a few USB audio adapters).
If it'd meet your needs, a number of FireWire devices can be made to work with an Octane.... primarily memory card readers and a few firewire video devices.
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - Irinikus - 10-21-2018
(10-21-2018, 12:14 AM)indy99 Wrote: Does the USB adapter show up with a PC I Adapter ID in an hinv? If so and you IRIX revision is new enough you probably just have some stale entries in your hardware graph (that still point at your PS/2 kb&m).
The entries for I/O devices are enumerated by and can be managed or reordered by editing /etc/ioconfig.conf.
If you wish to do that as the IRIX gods intended, see "man ioconfig" (and for good measure "man usbinput").
If you'd rather cut to the chase, rename /etc/ioconfig.conf (or, if your feeling lucky, delete it entirely). Shut down, reattach the Sun USB stuff, and reboot. IRIX will regenerate ioconfig.
If the Sun gear passes muster / is fully compliant with the USB HID standard, hopefully you'll be in like Flynn. If you weren't so fortunate, restore your original ioconfig and reboot.
My Tezro is running 6.5.30, the USB kb&m appear in an hinv -vm as
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type keyboard
USB Human Interface Device: device id 0 type mouse
indy99 / recondas
The USB Adaptor does show up in the hinv.
![[Image: ORMwYrZ.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/ORMwYrZ.jpg)
The funny thing is that the machine boots up with a graphical output with the USB keyboard and mouse . (They are just unresponsive when I get to the login screen)
The prom therefore seems accept them, as the machine normally doesn't boot with a graphical output if theres no PS/2 keyboard and mouse connected.
RE: Using a USB mouse and keyboard on a Tezro with a USB card fitted? - indy99 - 10-21-2018
(10-21-2018, 05:21 AM)Irinikus Wrote: The funny thing is that the machine boots up with a graphical output with the USB keyboard and mouse . (They are just unresponsive when I get to the login screen)All are good indications you'll be able to use the Sun kb&m. The reason they're unresponsive at log in is their assigned priority in your ioconfig file.I
The prom therefore seems accept them, as the machine normally doesn't boot with a graphical output if theres no PS/2 keyboard and mouse connected.
What you're seeing on your desktop Irix box is an artifact from Irix's use with BIG IRON systems. Stuff that couldn't be rebooted to add trivial hardware like I/O hardware or even more important gear like additional processors. The hardware graph, and to a lesser extent ioconfig, allowed the sysadmin to add hardware without a reboot.
In an over-simplification of the process, if an administrator wanted to switch to a USB keyboard he could simply add the keyboard, edit ioconfig so that the newly added kb was recognized rather that the previously used PS/2 version, update the hwgraph and be happily typing away without a reboot.
For those of us with a simple desktop system, it is arguably easier to just remove it rename ioconfig and reboot. Since it appears you have Flame hardware attached to your Tezro, I'd strongly recommend you backup your existing version of ioconfig first.