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Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mopar5150 - 09-03-2022

Hey Guys,
Here are the modifications required to mount a Fuel/Tezro V10/12 into an Origin 350. 
 Remove the sheet metal parts from the card and discard the thin shim between the rear plate and board.
You need to remove the heatsink from the board. you do this by removing the square retainer plate, spring and base plate. Then heat the center of the heatsink with a heat gun to soften the glue. Once the glue is soft I use a very thin screwdriver to carefully separate the heatsink from the chip. Take your time as you can damage the board if you get to rough with this step.

Heatsink removed.
   

Now you have to cut off 1" of fins from the heatsink so it will clear the nodeboard. Just cut off the fins and don't cut through the whole heatsink. These boards run hot and the more surface area the better.  Make sure to clean the old glue off of the heatsink and chip. then apply heatsink paste to the chip and reassemble the board with the fins going the right direction and the notch towards the front of the O350.
   

Now remove the exhaust fans from the O350 and modify the long bracket to hold just one fan and the V10. NOTE, there are two types of brackets. One has a single hole at the end but most have two. If your bracket has only one hole just drill a second as shown.

Brackett differences. 
   

 Now you have to cut 2.5" from the left end of the bracket then cut the side lip at 5" from the mount end and then bend the bracket 90 degrees. once this is done then notch the side end to clear the nodeboard.

Bracket with cut and bend.
   

Notch detail.
   

Now cut the long V10 brace as shown and then drill and tap for the 2 6/32 screws. This is tapped so that the screws are captive as you cant reach them later.

 Brace detail.
   

Now trim off the top and bottom of the rear panel so it will fit in the O350.

 Rear panel detail.
   

You can now reassemble the V10. 

 This mod requires a fan to be installed under the V10 that blows out of the rear of the chassis. The fan header on the main board has a limited current carrying capability and I have found this fan to work well.

Fan part number.
   

More details in next post.
The V10 fan requires two notches to fit. One on the exhaust port and one on the outside mount boss.
Fan notch details.
   
   

I mount the fan to the mainboard with velcro. You will have to lengthen the fan wires so they reach the fan header. NOTE! SGI uses a different pin out for this fan header so you have to change the fan pinout!

 The SGI pinout is 
1 +12V
2 TACH
3 Ground.

 V10 fan installed.  Remember to remove the small block off plate from the back of the chassis.
   

The large exhaust fan from the O350 requires a slot to be cut on the outside plate to let air out of the side of the chassis. Please excuse my rough cut as this part is not finished yet.

Exhaust fan cutout.
   

 Now you can reassemble the machine. Install the V10 fan first, it needs to be be back far enough to clear the V10 heatsink. Then install the V10 board. To install the large exhaust fan, install the fan screw into the mount bracket but do not tighten it yet. Install the fan and bracket into the machine. You have to flex the bracket end to get it over the screws on the V10 brace. Once that is done tighten up the screws and put nuts on the V10 screws. You will only be able to get one screw into the V10 rear plate on the top left.

Rear plate detail.
   

Final install.
   
Here is what the OEM rack Tezro/ ONYX 350 graphics card install looks like.
   

It has a completely enclosed V12 with a very short heatsink. There is a small fan on the bottom and a small metal duct mounted on the rear panel. It uses a special nodeboard air dam that is notched to pull air from on top of the ram area.

Rear fan duct.
   

Other photos
   
   
   
   

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - Noguri - 09-05-2022

Amazing! Thanks a lot for this tutorial!

Does such a guidance for converting Onyx2/O2000 XIO boards into Octane boards (and vice versa) exists somewhere?

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mopar5150 - 09-05-2022

I enjoy this sort of work. I am doing a 2x1ghz V12 O350 today and will do a write up on that project as well.

I do remember converting Octane graphics boards to the Origin 2000 and as I recall you only need the correct latches to make it work. I think a notch on the back plate was required to clear the latch lever. I will need to look at my octane and some photos of the O2K boards to help me remember.
I have about 20 pounds of Origin2k and octane metal parts and latches, Once you figure out what you need I will send you some parts.

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - Noguri - 09-06-2022

Thanks for the reply Mopar!

My concern is to adapt an O2K XIO board to fit into an Octane. I am already aware a spare Octane XIO board will have to be "sacrificed" for that...
If you have dead Octane XIO boards, I'll be extremely glad if we could make a deal. At the same time, as I ll be away from home for still quite a long time, there's no urgency anyway

Best regards,

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - vishnu - 09-08-2022

One of our physics Ph.Ds at my place of employ, who's originally from Greece, says about this sort of thing, "it is not en-gee-ah-neering, it is art!" 😍

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mopar5150 - 09-17-2022

I don't know about art, it is just me willing to take a bandsaw to my SGIs. Smile

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mashek - 09-22-2022

Great post Mopar. I did this for a customer a few years back, and ended up buying a mill to get the job done. I wish I had documented it a lot better, but to avoid having a smaller heatsink than stock, since it's already a bit low on airflow pushing out that little vent at the bottom I did started with a chunky bit of heatsink that almost covered the whole V12 board. I milled out space to clear the capacitor on the base board, and a couple places for some pins, IIRC. I got my heatsink stock from heatsinkusa.com which were a bit expensive, but they had the large heatsinks in stock and the customer service there was top notch.

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mopar5150 - 09-30-2022

Interesting and a good idea making a completely new heatsink. I would like to see any photos you might have.
With the fan I use under the V-pro I have not had any temp issues even with quad 800s and 8gig ram. I used to add a small duct like the factory setup but found it was no help and perhaps a hinderance. The extra air sneaking out of the small holes of the V-pro back plate appears to make a difference. Adding the slot to the side of the large exhaust fan is required as well.

I have made a lot of these "clone" systems with no temp complaints. I think most people realize that these wont survive in an 90f environment for very long. My desk where I use this same setup maintains 78f and I have not had any issues.

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - weblacky - 11-17-2023

Hey Mopar5150,
Can you give me a little more info about how you get the back retaining plate and spring off? I don't want to make a mistake here but I need to do it for several Fuel V12 cards. Do you compress the assembly slightly in like a vice or some sort of channel lock pliers and then slide the plate out and then slowly let the spring expand or what is it that you do?

I need more information, if you please.

RE: Mounting V10/V12 in O350 - mopar5150 - 11-27-2023

Sorry for the slow response, I am not on here much anymore.
You don't need any tools to get the plate off as there is very little spring tension. Just push down and slide it over and it will come off.