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New with SGI = Need some help! - megaimg - 10-25-2021
Hello team, I just safe SGI Octane and Fuel to be trash. I am trying to get them online....The don't have HD...Can I use SCSI2SD on this units....any other options....Do I need HD to check if the unit work?
Thanks!
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - jenna64bit - 10-25-2021
Hi there! Congrats on a seriously nice trash find! SCSI2SD might work with adaptors, but you won't have a good time with it. I personally would suggest getting regular old hard drives for them.
The Octane uses a drive sled and old 80 pin SCA drives. It's very different from the 50 pin connector on scsi2sd and a faster connection too! The Octane sleds can be 3d printed. There is an early version on Thingiverse, but I know someone has a better version with the handle and everything. Ian Mapleson's website has a list of good choices for Octane drive, which can be ebay'd for a reasonable price.
As for the Fuel, I don't have one! I wish I did
It also uses a later SCSI revision. It's likely you'll want a regular drive for it as well. I don't think it uses a drive sled at least. Both of these machines can run regular platter drives faster than the supported bandwidth on scsi2sd. Good luck, and keep us updated!
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - indigofan - 10-25-2021
(10-25-2021, 11:49 AM)jenna64bit Wrote: Hi there! Congrats on a seriously nice trash find! SCSI2SD might work with adaptors, but you won't have a good time with it. I personally would suggest getting regular old hard drives for them.
The Octane uses a drive sled and old 80 pin SCA drives. It's very different from the 50 pin connector on scsi2sd and a faster connection too! The Octane sleds can be 3d printed. There is an early version on Thingiverse, but I know someone has a better version with the handle and everything. Ian Mapleson's website has a list of good choices for Octane drive, which can be ebay'd for a reasonable price.
As for the Fuel, I don't have one! I wish I didIt also uses a later SCSI revision. It's likely you'll want a regular drive for it as well. I don't think it uses a drive sled at least. Both of these machines can run regular platter drives faster than the supported bandwidth on scsi2sd. Good luck, and keep us updated!
Just to make things more difficult, for the Fuel, you will need to find 68 pin SCSI drives. I have tried a 68 pin to 80 pin adapter and no luck, but others have tried different ones and they worked, sorry, don't have links... So for the 68 pin drive, best to find a 15K RPM / 300GB drive, which will set you back around $250+ for each drive, it can hold two, maybe three if you want to tuck one in where the DVD goes or the other empty slot.. But think that it would get too hot and the box is temperamental at best when it comes to the environmental monitoring. Also you might want to replace the power with an ATX compatible power supply as I have heard about a lot of power unit failures. Search the forum.
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - megaimg - 10-25-2021
Thanks everyone, but before I go and expend some money....how can I tell if the unit are operational....The Octane does not do anything, the Fuel, will give me a White light and after that shutdown.
Does the Octane is like the Indigo, if the Battery is bad, it will not boot? any info...
Thanks....
-Frank
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - Raion - 10-25-2021
Serial connections.
The Octane not doing anything once plugged in is not good.
The Fuel's white light could either be that it doesn't detect a keyboard and monitor, or that its ENV monitoring is dead. You won't know either way.
They each have their own serial settings. Null modem cable needed, IIRC, the serial port initializes at 9600 baud. Definitely 8-N-1, though.
For the Fuel, I think the baud is 38400 as is the Tezro's.
Null-modem cables aren't costly.
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - megaimg - 10-25-2021
Any way to test the PSU of the Octane? Their is a buss on it... Does this unit suffer from bad capacitors?
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - Raion - 10-25-2021
It can yes. There is no way to bench test unfortunately
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - indigofan - 10-25-2021
For the Fuel, I would recommend opening it up and inspecting the fans.. One of mine came off during shipping and was giving me the same error. I re-seeded the front fan, checked the rest and voila.. Fuel was up and running and ready to render!
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - vishnu - 10-28-2021
Does anyone have manuals for the Octane Cherokee and Lucent power supplies? If we knew the pinout and the power rating for each voltage it would be pretty easy to rig up a resistor bank for bench testing.
RE: New with SGI = Need some help! - mamed - 10-28-2021
Even if they are broken don’t throw them away I love fixing junk I’d take them