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Help getting started with HP-UX - Shiunbird - 04-10-2021

Hello everyone,

Any tips on how to get started with a cold install for my C8000?

The seller provided me a few ISOs (the workstation comes with a license in the box for TCOE, but not the media).
None of them is bootable.

I burned the ones at http://hpux.irixnet.org/hp-ux/11iv1/ (Operating Environment March 2003) but they kernel-dump and the system restarts not much after it starts loading. I think they are not compatible (even though 11iv1 should be as far as I know).

Any tips would be much appreciated.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - TruHobbyist - 04-10-2021

(04-10-2021, 06:33 AM)Shiunbird Wrote:  Hello everyone,

Any tips on how to get started with a cold install for my C8000?

The seller provided me a few ISOs (the workstation comes with a license in the box for TCOE, but not the media).
None of them is bootable.

I burned the ones at http://hpux.irixnet.org/hp-ux/11iv1/ (Operating Environment March 2003) but they kernel-dump and the system restarts not much after it starts loading. I think they are not compatible (even though 11iv1 should be as far as I know).

Any tips would be much appreciated.


Having installed a fair share of HP-UX v1s, there's really no trick. Just put the media in, boot as required per the manual and start the installation.

From the log you posted, it seems either a media problem or faulty hardware. C8000 workstations were kind of a hybrid between workstation and server, which is why HP-UX v2 can be installed on them. So in fact, it may be a media problem, requiring the exact supoprted versions for the workstation. Supported versions for C8000 are MTOE and TCOE as per https://www.manualslib.com/manual/539653/Hp-C8000.html#page=2-manual

I don't have these OEs, so you would need to get your hands on these somehow.

But to be clear: HP-UX installs are one of the smoothiest unix installations I've ever done, far more than Irix, for example.


Good luck

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - commodorejohn - 04-10-2021

The roadblock I ran up against with installing HP-UX (this was 10.x, mind you) was that it does not cope well with any install-time customization more advanced than disk partitioning. I spent days banging my head against the wall until I finally just gave up and went with a plain default install...at which point it worked perfectly fine. There were piles of options in the installer, but apparently nobody had bothered to make sure that you'd still get even a minimally functional system if you changed them from the defaults.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - jpstewart - 04-10-2021

It is important to remember that the PA-8800 and PA-8900 CPUs used in the C8000 didn't come out until 2004 and 2005, respectively.  I suspect the kernel panic you're seeing is due to an unsupported CPU, since all of the media in the collection you linked to is earlier than that date.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - Shiunbird - 04-11-2021

Thank you!

I've approached the seller and he said he provided me the wrong images. I'm downloading the new one now.
Fingers crossed!
On another note...

Yes - it is like the IntelliStation 285 that I had. Much more server-y than workstation-y.
The C8000 is MUCH quieter, though.

When I go back for another AIX box, I will probably go for a 185. The lack of Altivec on the 285 makes a few things very painful. I want to be able to build a few things there, but also want the boxes to be useful as daily drivers.

The C8000 with Debian 10 is a delight. I'm trying to figure out Gentoo and I will leave the second disk for HP-UX.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - Shiunbird - 04-28-2021

Hello everyone!

I am up and running. The seller hooked me up with proper media. I just did the first boot. It looks exactly the same as AIX.

CDE complains I am not running the optimal drivers, but I still haven't installed TCOE or the FireGL drivers.
Once I get this done, I will try to build my benchmark tools. If they build without any modifications between Mac, Linux, x86, PPC, HP-UX and PA-RISC (it's strictly pure C and basic OpenGL libraries), then I am confident they are good for prime-time and I hope they will build fine everywhere else.

Any tips, let me know.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - NISMO1968 - 05-02-2024

Hey!

I just unpacked my brand new C8000. I have a TCOE agreement printed in the box, but I have no OS media... Is there any chance anybody could point me at the right direction? Thanks in advance!

-nismo1968

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - Shiunbird - 05-02-2024

I'll hook you up. PM sent.

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - NISMO1968 - 05-02-2024

Thanks man! I appreciate!

-nismo1968

RE: Help getting started with HP-UX - Gamefan - 05-03-2024

Great to hear you got you rig up and running!