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New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - massiverobot - 07-08-2020
I spent some time creating a tardist for the RSE bootstrapper so that IRIX users could use inst to quickly and easily install RSE and get started with all the new software that is available for IRIX via RPM.
The FTP server is another feature to allow a SGI with only Internet access the ability to grab the tardist, install it and start to use RPM to further deploy some amazing software on their 6.5.30 (.22) systems. Enjoy!
The FTP server is at ftp.irix.fun
You can use ftp or anonymous to login. Things are set for binary mode automatically.
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - Raion - 07-08-2020
Sounds good. Should make bootstrapping your stuff a lot easier.
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - Lady Serena Kitty - 07-08-2020
This FTP service does not work. In Chromium, it just asks for login details over and over again. With MATE Desktop's "Connect to Server..." tool (under the "Places" main menu), all I ever get is "Access denied." With IRIX's "Icon View of an FTP Site", I can log in, but there are no icons, just the text "Type: EmptyFile_FILE"
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - kaigan - 07-08-2020
(07-08-2020, 10:07 PM)Lady Serena Kitty Wrote: This FTP service does not work. In Chromium, it just asks for login details over and over again. With MATE Desktop's "Connect to Server..." tool (under the "Places" main menu), all I ever get is "Access denied." With IRIX's "Icon View of an FTP Site", I can log in, but there are no icons, just the text "Type: EmptyFile_FILE"
I ran into similar issues trying to log in via the IRIX FTP client. What worked for me was using WinSCP's anonymous logon setting and grabbing the tardist that way. I then transferred it back over to my Onyx4. It installed without any issues and I'm looking forward to playing with the RSE release!
Edit: I was having an issue with the release and was going to redownload it. I'm now having the same problem even with WinSCP. It's refusing to accept an anonymous login.
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - Raion - 07-09-2020
I recommend pureftpd or vsftpd, dunno what's being used here but I bet it's a firewall issue
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - vishnu - 07-09-2020
Doesn't work using netkit-ftp-0.17 for Linux:
ftp> open
(to) ftp.irix.fun
Trying 208.113.214.200...
Connected to ftp.irix.fun (208.113.214.200).
220 DreamHost FTP Server
Name (ftp.irix.fun): ftp
331 Password required for ftp
Password: (typed in my email address)
530 Login incorrect.
Login failed.
ftp> open
(to) ftp.irix.fun
Trying 208.113.214.200...
Connected to ftp.irix.fun (208.113.214.200).
220 DreamHost FTP Server
Name (ftp.irix.fun): anonymous
331 Password required for anonymous
Password: (typed in my email address)
530 Login incorrect.
Login failed.
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - massiverobot - 07-09-2020
It's fixed now- don't know what was wrong, it's a small system running anon vsftp. reboot fixed it. Type 'ftp' at the first prompt.
$ ftp ftp.irix.fun
Trying 165.227.108.211
Connected to ftp.irix.fun.
220 Welcome to irix.fun FTP service.
Name (ftp.irix.fun:dillera): ftp
230 Login successful.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp>
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - kaigan - 07-09-2020
(07-09-2020, 03:16 AM)massiverobot Wrote: It's fixed now- don't know what was wrong, it's a small system running anon vsftp. reboot fixed it. Type 'ftp' at the first prompt.
Looks good on my side now. Thank you!
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - Raion - 07-10-2020
It'll be interesting to see how Nekoware II stacks up vs RSE. Looking at the package selection we're definitely a lot more narrow. I'm going to possibly repackage Firefox since we have been working on GTK2 for MIPSPro, once that stuff is done, and possibly looking at 3.5 or 3.6 (firefox will probably need GCC; I don't have any qualms about it for stuff like this.)
3.6 is realistically the last version with even close to acceptable performance on IRIX. It may be a good quality of life upgrade and convince the stragglers to directly upgrade to Nekoware II, especially if tls 1.2 can be patched in. But half of the packages needed by say GTK2 in RSE and stuff is not going to be included in nekoware II. The kitchensink approach has a time and place, but I don't really care for it in this case.
Hopefully someone over there tries GEMRB and our SDL2 stuff, since there's nothing stopping you guys from using any of our work as long as you credit the original contributors for packages.
RE: New Tardist for RSE available via FTP - massiverobot - 07-10-2020
Remember - this tardist is just the bootsrapper. There are a bunch more packages you install via RPM immediately after installing the 'self-hoster.' These are the MVP for running RPM, curl, git and support tools.
Once you install the tardist you should be pulling down the RPMS and installing the rest of the beta5 release, then you have the gcc env setup for dev work. You can then also install the 'devpacks' which include more tools to make development and porting of packages over.
One critical one is: https://github.com/sgidevnet/sgug-rse/releases/download/wipstarterpacks/libdicl-0.1.24-1.sgugbeta.src.rpm
Which is the irix compatability libary that has been built and adapts the most common IRIX-isms for modern code.